Comments on: Beyond Introversion and Extroversion http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:53:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: My Experience in Personal Development - My Blog http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-386630 My Experience in Personal Development - My Blog Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:51:34 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-386630 [...] with shyness and was trying to find out how to become more confidents when I stumbled upon an article on Scott Young’s [...] [...] with shyness and was trying to find out how to become more confidents when I stumbled upon an article on Scott Young’s [...]

]]> By: Scott H Young » Friday Links 08-06-20 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-205399 Scott H Young » Friday Links 08-06-20 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:01:09 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-205399 [...] Beyond Introversion and Extroversion - Given the string of posts I’ve written lately on improving social skills, I thought I’d point to an older article I wrote on the subject. [...] [...] Beyond Introversion and Extroversion – Given the string of posts I’ve written lately on improving social skills, I thought I’d point to an older article I wrote on the subject. [...]

]]> By: Scott H Young » 10 Tips for Escaping Your Comfort Zone and Having Adventures http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-197154 Scott H Young » 10 Tips for Escaping Your Comfort Zone and Having Adventures Wed, 28 May 2008 13:54:41 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-197154 [...] - I’ve already mentioned how I don’t like labels of extrovert and introvert. In my life I’ve been labeled as bordering on the extreme of both. Even tests like Myers-Briggs [...] [...] – I’ve already mentioned how I don’t like labels of extrovert and introvert. In my life I’ve been labeled as bordering on the extreme of both. Even tests like Myers-Briggs [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-96589 Chris Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:21:59 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-96589 Excellent post. I would just add a pointer to the 'Big 5' model of personality traits, where Extroversion is considered as a trait, being the intensity of response to pleasurable stimuli, and Neuroticism is a totally separate trait, being the intensity of response to negative or painful stimuli. So, someone subject to social anxiety would be high on the Neuroticism trait, independantly of his/her degree of Extroversion. This is the distinction between shyness (high N), and introversion (low E). Daniel Nettle, 'Personality', is an excellent author on this subject. The question of how much we can modify our score on these traits is very high on my agenda. Thanks for the post. Excellent post. I would just add a pointer to the ‘Big 5′ model of personality traits, where Extroversion is considered as a trait, being the intensity of response to pleasurable stimuli, and Neuroticism is a totally separate trait, being the intensity of response to negative or painful stimuli. So, someone subject to social anxiety would be high on the Neuroticism trait, independantly of his/her degree of Extroversion. This is the distinction between shyness (high N), and introversion (low E). Daniel Nettle, ‘Personality’, is an excellent author on this subject.
The question of how much we can modify our score on these traits is very high on my agenda. Thanks for the post.

]]> By: max night http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-16228 max night Mon, 07 May 2007 21:23:51 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-16228 If you comment back on this one Scott, be sure to note the date of when I wrote my first response. I want to elaborate on what the phenomena of introversion and extroversion are. They might be personality types, but the very thing that differentiates the two is where you get energy from. introverts get theirs from being alone and inside themselves. Think of an introvert being around others. Those others take away energy from the introvert, and being alone recharges their batteries. Extroverts on the other hand, are energy vampires. Though they dont hurt you by taking energy, they simply gain more of it by being around others. an introvert can be more social than an extrovert, it is quite possible. The reason why shyness and being "antisocial" are put together with being an introvert because it is the tendency of an introvert to do so, as viewed by an extrovert.. Most of the time introverts arent shy or antisocial, they want a lot of alone time because they simply need to recharge or be inside themselves. If you comment back on this one Scott, be sure to note the date of when I wrote my first response. I want to elaborate on what the phenomena of introversion and extroversion are. They might be personality types, but the very thing that differentiates the two is where you get energy from. introverts get theirs from being alone and inside themselves. Think of an introvert being around others. Those others take away energy from the introvert, and being alone recharges their batteries. Extroverts on the other hand, are energy vampires. Though they dont hurt you by taking energy, they simply gain more of it by being around others. an introvert can be more social than an extrovert, it is quite possible. The reason why shyness and being “antisocial” are put together with being an introvert because it is the tendency of an introvert to do so, as viewed by an extrovert.. Most of the time introverts arent shy or antisocial, they want a lot of alone time because they simply need to recharge or be inside themselves.

]]> By: max night http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-12335 max night Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:59:05 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-12335 i agree with you completely that the intro/extro labels are ridiculous, but many articles on the subject say that there is a large and contraversial grey area that has the majority of these labeled people put in. You could say that an individual is more of one than the other, although based on social skills and personal traits, this curve towards either being more introverted or extroverted is like being on a tight rope the width of the golden gate bridge. I personally am very introverted, compared to me saying that i am an introvert, and that label shouldnt apply to anyone. it should be more of a condition, such as being termite infested, where the wood is you and the termite is the introversion. There is a level of it, and like you said, you can change that level so you can have fewer termites, except these personality bugs arent dangerous, just different and personal to the individual. I dont like the idea of being more extroverted, and I actually enjoy being completely introverted. When I interact with others, I dont ever seem to be the one talking, and I also multitask, listening to the conversation while at the same time, am in my own little world. I also dont like sharing any personal information with others, and dislike parties and social gatherings. I sometimes wish that I was a mute. For me, introversion is very advantagious because of how well Im doing in high school right now, and I often have free time to occupy with my own thoughts and ideas. Finally, please leave a response to this comment because I am unable to truly comment to anyone and have them reply. Thanks i agree with you completely that the intro/extro labels are ridiculous, but many articles on the subject say that there is a large and contraversial grey area that has the majority of these labeled people put in. You could say that an individual is more of one than the other, although based on social skills and personal traits, this curve towards either being more introverted or extroverted is like being on a tight rope the width of the golden gate bridge. I personally am very introverted, compared to me saying that i am an introvert, and that label shouldnt apply to anyone. it should be more of a condition, such as being termite infested, where the wood is you and the termite is the introversion. There is a level of it, and like you said, you can change that level so you can have fewer termites, except these personality bugs arent dangerous, just different and personal to the individual. I dont like the idea of being more extroverted, and I actually enjoy being completely introverted. When I interact with others, I dont ever seem to be the one talking, and I also multitask, listening to the conversation while at the same time, am in my own little world. I also dont like sharing any personal information with others, and dislike parties and social gatherings. I sometimes wish that I was a mute. For me, introversion is very advantagious because of how well Im doing in high school right now, and I often have free time to occupy with my own thoughts and ideas. Finally, please leave a response to this comment because I am unable to truly comment to anyone and have them reply. Thanks

]]> By: Scott Young http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-1158 Scott Young Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:45:26 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-1158 Thanks for the comments, Al. Labels and generalizations are destructive more often than not. Thanks for the comments, Al. Labels and generalizations are destructive more often than not.

]]> By: Al Brown http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-1150 Al Brown Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:47:36 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-1150 This is a great point. Skills and comfort levels in the situations that require them are not static. So such labels are really only temporary descriptors. We shouldn't let them control what we do. These kinds of labels have real destructive power. I think about racist notions and how even many of the labeled can buy into the falsehoods perpetuated by them. The most powerful people reject limiting labels. They don't let them limit what they can do or what great things they discover in others. This is a great point. Skills and comfort levels in the situations that require them are not static. So such labels are really only temporary descriptors. We shouldn’t let them control what we do.

These kinds of labels have real destructive power. I think about racist notions and how even many of the labeled can buy into the falsehoods perpetuated by them.

The most powerful people reject limiting labels. They don’t let them limit what they can do or what great things they discover in others.

]]> By: Scott Young http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-1146 Scott Young Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:59:30 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-1146 Dave, Thanks for the comments. My major stance was introversion to extroversion simply because our culture has a negative stance on that personality. Since I doubt most extroverts are wanting to become more introverted (despite advantages) I tried to write more to introverts where a desire to be more extroverted would be more common. I really think the advantages of both sides are about equal despite societies preference for extroversion. That said, I did make some references attatching shyness to introversion. You are correct in noting that the two are different qualities, but they would be correlated with each other. As a plus, many people take the label of introvert to mean shy even if they are actually separate qualities. Most of the tests used to tell whether some is introverted wouldn't have big distinctions between shyness and introversion either since responses to questions like "Are you uncomfortable talking in groups" could apply to both. You are right in saying that it is more than just people skills that separate introverts from extroverts (although I think that can often be a big part). By conditioning yourself to accept more stimulus you can increase your extroverted abilities. Introverts do have many advantages and I have utilized many of those. My desire is to strike a happy medium where I can access the benefits of introversion and extroversion together. If you are perfectly happy with your current personality, it isn't a requirement to change it. Dave,

Thanks for the comments. My major stance was introversion to extroversion simply because our culture has a negative stance on that personality. Since I doubt most extroverts are wanting to become more introverted (despite advantages) I tried to write more to introverts where a desire to be more extroverted would be more common. I really think the advantages of both sides are about equal despite societies preference for extroversion.

That said, I did make some references attatching shyness to introversion. You are correct in noting that the two are different qualities, but they would be correlated with each other. As a plus, many people take the label of introvert to mean shy even if they are actually separate qualities. Most of the tests used to tell whether some is introverted wouldn’t have big distinctions between shyness and introversion either since responses to questions like “Are you uncomfortable talking in groups” could apply to both.

You are right in saying that it is more than just people skills that separate introverts from extroverts (although I think that can often be a big part). By conditioning yourself to accept more stimulus you can increase your extroverted abilities.

Introverts do have many advantages and I have utilized many of those. My desire is to strike a happy medium where I can access the benefits of introversion and extroversion together. If you are perfectly happy with your current personality, it isn’t a requirement to change it.

]]> By: Dave http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/comment-page-1/#comment-1139 Dave Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:03:52 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2006/09/07/beyond-introversion-and-extroversion/#comment-1139 Well, I've enjoyed reading many of your posts, Scott, but I think you are way off base with this one, mainly because you seem to be confusing "introversion" with "shyness". Most shy people are introverts, but not all introverts are shy. Personally, as an introvert (as I mentioned in the comments of another post, way, way on the introverted side) I don't see being "labeled" as an introvert as negative, as you apparently do. It's just a way of interacting with the world. I can have all the people skills you mention and more (and I think and hope I do) and I will still be an introvert. You may want to take a look at "The Introvert Advantage" by Marti Olsen Laney and "The Loners' Manifesto" by Anneli Rufus if this topic interests you. Well, I’ve enjoyed reading many of your posts, Scott, but I think you are way off base with this one, mainly because you seem to be confusing “introversion” with “shyness”. Most shy people are introverts, but not all introverts are shy. Personally, as an introvert (as I mentioned in the comments of another post, way, way on the introverted side) I don’t see being “labeled” as an introvert as negative, as you apparently do. It’s just a way of interacting with the world. I can have all the people skills you mention and more (and I think and hope I do) and I will still be an introvert. You may want to take a look at “The Introvert Advantage” by Marti Olsen Laney and “The Loners’ Manifesto” by Anneli Rufus if this topic interests you.

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