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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/02/20/the-myth-of-talent/comment-page-1/#comment-358842</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Thanks for making me feel better. Basically, you&#039;re telling us to believe in ourselves and what we&#039;re capable of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Thanks for making me feel better. Basically, you&#8217;re telling us to believe in ourselves and what we&#8217;re capable of.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Young</title>
		<link>http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/02/20/the-myth-of-talent/comment-page-1/#comment-311413</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,

Likely no. But I have friends that are classically trained singers, and if you ask them whether singing requires natural talent or practice, and they&#039;ll let you know.

Like most of my articles, the principle is a relative one, not an absolute one. Talent exists in the extremes, I write because most people live in the middle.

-Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>Likely no. But I have friends that are classically trained singers, and if you ask them whether singing requires natural talent or practice, and they&#8217;ll let you know.</p>
<p>Like most of my articles, the principle is a relative one, not an absolute one. Talent exists in the extremes, I write because most people live in the middle.</p>
<p>-Scott</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
		<link>http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/02/20/the-myth-of-talent/comment-page-1/#comment-311392</link>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about people who can sing several octaves? Are the variations in their vocal chords learned too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about people who can sing several octaves? Are the variations in their vocal chords learned too?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott H Young &#187; 100 Good Ideas</title>
		<link>http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/02/20/the-myth-of-talent/comment-page-1/#comment-197172</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott H Young &#187; 100 Good Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Don&#8217;t worry about talent. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Young</title>
		<link>http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/02/20/the-myth-of-talent/comment-page-1/#comment-184667</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos Robert.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100%!   

There were people when I was growing up who considered me a musical genius, and IQ-wise, I tested as a genius (145).

The more I live and the more I read, the more I consider this to be bullshit.

I am currently an elementary music teacher.  And I HATE the word talent!  There is not a SINGLE student of the 400 I have, who is more capable than any others of understanding music.  This includes those in the gifted class and those in the special education class.  If these kids have the right experiences and exposure when they are young, their potential is infinite, which is why I teach elementary and not junior high or high school.  Research indicates that age 9 is the approximate point when musical aptitude is determined.  What happens before this age has a profound effect on what can happen afterward.  And guess what -- genetics are determined long before age 9!

I also believe that this philosophy applies to any academic pursuit, not just music.  Some people, based on their experience or physical makeup, may find some things easier.  But all are capable.  A child who grows up listening to music that is more advanced, but still tonal, will be more apt at melody than a child who grows up listening to rap, or to very little music outside TV shows.  However, all can learn.  This is the basis for my life and my career.  I heard a great choir director say, &quot;I could teach a doorknob to sing.&quot;   That&#039;s the bottom line.

The most important thing, though, is that the idea of talent is DANGEROUS!  It is an excuse for children to fail to learn.  &quot;I&#039;m just not good at math.&quot;  &quot;I&#039;m tone deaf.&quot;  (tone deaf-ness does not exist, by the way -- if you think you are tone-deaf, you have believed what some uneducated people have told you -- change your thinking, and you will change your singing).  

All it does is encourage children to fail.  As a teacher, I encourage children to succeed, and I insist that every one of my students (all 400 of them!) does succeed.  The idea of talent is directly against this goal.

TALENT IS FALSE.  Natural inclinations exist, mostly based on experiences, but any deficiency that these create can (and should) easily be overcome with a little effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100%!   </p>
<p>There were people when I was growing up who considered me a musical genius, and IQ-wise, I tested as a genius (145).</p>
<p>The more I live and the more I read, the more I consider this to be bullshit.</p>
<p>I am currently an elementary music teacher.  And I HATE the word talent!  There is not a SINGLE student of the 400 I have, who is more capable than any others of understanding music.  This includes those in the gifted class and those in the special education class.  If these kids have the right experiences and exposure when they are young, their potential is infinite, which is why I teach elementary and not junior high or high school.  Research indicates that age 9 is the approximate point when musical aptitude is determined.  What happens before this age has a profound effect on what can happen afterward.  And guess what &#8212; genetics are determined long before age 9!</p>
<p>I also believe that this philosophy applies to any academic pursuit, not just music.  Some people, based on their experience or physical makeup, may find some things easier.  But all are capable.  A child who grows up listening to music that is more advanced, but still tonal, will be more apt at melody than a child who grows up listening to rap, or to very little music outside TV shows.  However, all can learn.  This is the basis for my life and my career.  I heard a great choir director say, &#8220;I could teach a doorknob to sing.&#8221;   That&#8217;s the bottom line.</p>
<p>The most important thing, though, is that the idea of talent is DANGEROUS!  It is an excuse for children to fail to learn.  &#8220;I&#8217;m just not good at math.&#8221;  &#8220;I&#8217;m tone deaf.&#8221;  (tone deaf-ness does not exist, by the way &#8212; if you think you are tone-deaf, you have believed what some uneducated people have told you &#8212; change your thinking, and you will change your singing).  </p>
<p>All it does is encourage children to fail.  As a teacher, I encourage children to succeed, and I insist that every one of my students (all 400 of them!) does succeed.  The idea of talent is directly against this goal.</p>
<p>TALENT IS FALSE.  Natural inclinations exist, mostly based on experiences, but any deficiency that these create can (and should) easily be overcome with a little effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Facility Thurgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facility Thurgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what of the talent of motivation? 
Some are genetically predisposed to work harder and focus for longer, so whatever they&#039;ve achieved has been a result of their genetics as well. 
How one handles a situation is at the very lowest level due to genetics, and so true motivation can&#039;t be fabricated if one lacks it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what of the talent of motivation?<br />
Some are genetically predisposed to work harder and focus for longer, so whatever they&#8217;ve achieved has been a result of their genetics as well.<br />
How one handles a situation is at the very lowest level due to genetics, and so true motivation can&#8217;t be fabricated if one lacks it.</p>
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		<title>By: mark stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/02/20/the-myth-of-talent/comment-page-1/#comment-69602</link>
		<dc:creator>mark stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, no..you people have it all wrong. I am a prodigy..and I have known first hand how I acquired it. It was through random events in my childhood that just &#039;happened&#039; to make the correct &#039;formula&#039; for learning. It was luck...but this &#039;formula&#039; can be learned. It just means that I &#039;found&#039; it by chance. You can find it...and once you do, you will have the same ability. Its like, if a thousand balls are thrown in one direction, the chances one will fall through a hole in the woods is high. Its the same with children...its not anything to do with genes...the person just &#039;happened&#039;...through chance, to get the right process. However, since you are older, you will require a lot more concious effort to acheive what I acheived by chance at a young age. Your thought process is already formed...ways of thinking are already habit. It will take effort to find and re-create a thought pattern that is more efficient. 

Its harder for you, but its not impossible. Once you have this insight and discipline. You can do it. People just often do not have the time to spend on little steps. This makes the world relatively not improove. Maybe the day where we can read minds to minds this mass ailment can be remedied and the most efficient thought processes will prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, no..you people have it all wrong. I am a prodigy..and I have known first hand how I acquired it. It was through random events in my childhood that just &#8216;happened&#8217; to make the correct &#8216;formula&#8217; for learning. It was luck&#8230;but this &#8216;formula&#8217; can be learned. It just means that I &#8216;found&#8217; it by chance. You can find it&#8230;and once you do, you will have the same ability. Its like, if a thousand balls are thrown in one direction, the chances one will fall through a hole in the woods is high. Its the same with children&#8230;its not anything to do with genes&#8230;the person just &#8216;happened&#8217;&#8230;through chance, to get the right process. However, since you are older, you will require a lot more concious effort to acheive what I acheived by chance at a young age. Your thought process is already formed&#8230;ways of thinking are already habit. It will take effort to find and re-create a thought pattern that is more efficient. </p>
<p>Its harder for you, but its not impossible. Once you have this insight and discipline. You can do it. People just often do not have the time to spend on little steps. This makes the world relatively not improove. Maybe the day where we can read minds to minds this mass ailment can be remedied and the most efficient thought processes will prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Am I still gifted? &#124; High Ability</title>
		<link>http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/02/20/the-myth-of-talent/comment-page-1/#comment-57037</link>
		<dc:creator>Am I still gifted? &#124; High Ability</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In his blog post The Myth of Talent, Scott Young writes, &#8220;This lie of talent, of gifted-ness has to be one of the most poisonous lies people have deceived themselves into believing. The belief that certain people, maybe even us, were born with abilities that you lack the power to replicate.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In his blog post The Myth of Talent, Scott Young writes, &#8220;This lie of talent, of gifted-ness has to be one of the most poisonous lies people have deceived themselves into believing. The belief that certain people, maybe even us, were born with abilities that you lack the power to replicate.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Myth of Talent &#171; Quiet Musings From Virginia</title>
		<link>http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/02/20/the-myth-of-talent/comment-page-1/#comment-51573</link>
		<dc:creator>The Myth of Talent &#171; Quiet Musings From Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A few months ago, I ran across an article that nagged at me. Scott Young argues that there is no such thing as talent, and that with enough perseverance, anyone can develop skills, regardless of talent. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A few months ago, I ran across an article that nagged at me. Scott Young argues that there is no such thing as talent, and that with enough perseverance, anyone can develop skills, regardless of talent. [...]</p>
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