Comments on: Goalless Action http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:32:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Productivity Zen - Today’s Top Blog Posts on Productivity - Powered by SocialRank http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/comment-page-1/#comment-58548 Productivity Zen - Today’s Top Blog Posts on Productivity - Powered by SocialRank Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:46:05 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/#comment-58548 [...] Goalless Action [...] [...] Goalless Action [...]

]]> By: Scott Young http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/comment-page-1/#comment-56123 Scott Young Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:30:49 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/#comment-56123 I'd like to add that the article doesn't point out that goalless action is superior to having goals. They are both useful in different contexts. ...which brings me to the point of why I used the "hammer vs house" metaphor. The key point here isn't to use goalless action or not to use it. Simply that you should confuse the tool (goals or goalless action) with the setting in which it operates. -Scott I’d like to add that the article doesn’t point out that goalless action is superior to having goals. They are both useful in different contexts.

…which brings me to the point of why I used the “hammer vs house” metaphor. The key point here isn’t to use goalless action or not to use it. Simply that you should confuse the tool (goals or goalless action) with the setting in which it operates.

-Scott

]]> By: Roy Carlson http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/comment-page-1/#comment-55398 Roy Carlson Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:12:56 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/#comment-55398 Great article and one that I coincidentally just started thinking about lately. For the past few years I've been trying to find a major life goal that I wanted to achieve. After struggling all these years, I've decided to just stop and see what happens. That doesn't mean I'm going to be lazy and do nothing. In fact I've decided to just start doing more. I'm joining Toastmasters and then soon joining some other clubs. The more I try the more I'll know what I like. Maybe by just forgetting about finding a life goal and just starting to get involved in different things, my life can start happening! Great article and one that I coincidentally just started thinking about lately. For the past few years I’ve been trying to find a major life goal that I wanted to achieve. After struggling all these years, I’ve decided to just stop and see what happens.

That doesn’t mean I’m going to be lazy and do nothing. In fact I’ve decided to just start doing more. I’m joining Toastmasters and then soon joining some other clubs. The more I try the more I’ll know what I like.

Maybe by just forgetting about finding a life goal and just starting to get involved in different things, my life can start happening!

]]> By: m3kw9 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/comment-page-1/#comment-55329 m3kw9 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:35:09 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/#comment-55329 After read the article I think you're right about focusing on action rather than the objective. Focusing on objective and seeing disparity of where you actually are from the goal can slow you down, discourage you, depress you and screw you up from a faster progress. It is so true, from experience. Is like a VERY fat person/skinny person going to the gym, if you look at the mirror during the first few weeks of work outs, you'll sorely be dissapointed because you'll hardly see a difference, but if you just focus on working out constantly, and not keep on comparing your progress to the amount of work you do, it get's easier. All this assuming the execersice program is proven to work for some ppl. After read the article I think you’re right about focusing on action rather than the objective.

Focusing on objective and seeing disparity of where you actually are from the goal can slow you down, discourage you, depress you and screw you up from a faster progress. It is so true, from experience.

Is like a VERY fat person/skinny person going to the gym, if you look at the mirror during the first few weeks of work outs, you’ll sorely be dissapointed because you’ll hardly see a difference, but if you just focus on working out constantly, and not keep on comparing your progress to the amount of work you do, it get’s easier. All this assuming the execersice program is proven to work for some ppl.

]]> By: m3kw9 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/comment-page-1/#comment-55321 m3kw9 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:13:57 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/#comment-55321 Scott: Why did you use the analogy: "mistaking the Hammer for the House"; is better if you have something we can more relate to, not many of us would mistake the way we use a hammer for a house. Is either that or you did not explain properly what you mean, even in the next sentence. Just doesn't link for me. Scott: Why did you use the analogy: “mistaking the Hammer for the House”; is better if you have something we can more relate to, not many of us would mistake the way we use a hammer for a house. Is either that or you did not explain properly what you mean, even in the next sentence. Just doesn’t link for me.

]]> By: Personal Development Reviews http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/comment-page-1/#comment-55229 Personal Development Reviews Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:46:36 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/#comment-55229 The article on "Goalless Action" reveals the fact about setting goals. 'Try working with less focus on your results and more on your individual actions' is the right kind of thought. This helps an individual to achieve something in life, which may be his/her goal in life or else a step forward towards their goal. The article on “Goalless Action” reveals the fact about setting goals. ‘Try working with less focus on your results and more on your individual actions’ is the right kind of thought. This helps an individual to achieve something in life, which may be his/her goal in life or else a step forward towards their goal.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/comment-page-1/#comment-55144 Daniel Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:46:08 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/#comment-55144 "Don’t worry about your weight or health. Instead focus on eating right and exercising regularly. Do this in spite of feedback that tells you changes aren’t occurring as fast as you would like." That's something I find really helpfull. I often struggled by making a day-by-day-calculation how much weight I will loose if I eat not more than ... kcal. Well, that's not working, at least not for a long time. Focusing on today, on eating good stuff, not to much, and on exercising today is the much better way, I think. “Don’t worry about your weight or health. Instead focus on eating right and exercising regularly. Do this in spite of feedback that tells you changes aren’t occurring as fast as you would like.”

That’s something I find really helpfull. I often struggled by making a day-by-day-calculation how much weight I will loose if I eat not more than … kcal. Well, that’s not working, at least not for a long time.

Focusing on today, on eating good stuff, not to much, and on exercising today is the much better way, I think.

]]> By: zdoll http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/comment-page-1/#comment-55064 zdoll Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:38:56 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/09/20/goalless-action/#comment-55064 Wow, I found that the most relevant part of this article (for me) was near the end: "Don’t worry about grades or academic performance. Instead focus yourself on learning..." I used to believe that learning was more important than whatever grades I was receiving. But now, and for the past two years, I have fallen into the "I must get straight A's" pressure trap because of various stresses. If I focus on just learning academic material, then my grades will probably improve. I will try to feel the enjoyment of learning again for the sake of improving myself and someday helping others with my knowledge, rather than trying to get perfect grades. I also have to learn to focus on the "means" to reaching my goal rather than the "ends". :) Wow, I found that the most relevant part of this article (for me) was near the end:

“Don’t worry about grades or academic performance. Instead focus yourself on learning…”

I used to believe that learning was more important than whatever grades I was receiving. But now, and for the past two years, I have fallen into the “I must get straight A’s” pressure trap because of various stresses. If I focus on just learning academic material, then my grades will probably improve.

I will try to feel the enjoyment of learning again for the sake of improving myself and someday helping others with my knowledge, rather than trying to get perfect grades.

I also have to learn to focus on the “means” to reaching my goal rather than the “ends”.

:)

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