Comments on: Why Vegetarian? http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:32:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Scott Young http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-1083066 Scott Young Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:40:49 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/?p=1037#comment-1083066 Adam, That chain of reasoning makes no sense to me. "It's impossible to fully avoid using animals to live, therefore we should use animals." That's a naturalistic fallacy of replacing is with ought. Look, I think there's definitely room for debate about the ethical merits of eating animals, and I think a lot of vegans go overboard focusing on things that don't matter. But I do think that arguments posed like that are ridiculous. It would be equivalent to saying "some necessary goods in the world are produced by slave labor (an unfortunate truth in today's society), therefore slave labor is okay." I'm fine if you choose to eat meat, and I think there are some good defensible positions for choosing to eat it in terms of moral philosophy. But the above argument isn't one of them. -Scott Adam,

That chain of reasoning makes no sense to me. “It’s impossible to fully avoid using animals to live, therefore we should use animals.” That’s a naturalistic fallacy of replacing is with ought.

Look, I think there’s definitely room for debate about the ethical merits of eating animals, and I think a lot of vegans go overboard focusing on things that don’t matter. But I do think that arguments posed like that are ridiculous. It would be equivalent to saying “some necessary goods in the world are produced by slave labor (an unfortunate truth in today’s society), therefore slave labor is okay.”

I’m fine if you choose to eat meat, and I think there are some good defensible positions for choosing to eat it in terms of moral philosophy. But the above argument isn’t one of them.

-Scott

]]> By: Adam Hurwitz http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-1080310 Adam Hurwitz Sat, 15 Oct 2011 04:03:50 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/?p=1037#comment-1080310 Hi, I stumbled across an interesting article written by a former vegan. They studied the process of sustainable farming and soil development and learned that the by products of animals are required for a natural soil compost that avoids unsustainable chemicals and practices. This which is led the author to an attitude of consuming meat that is raised in a mindful, humane, and sustainable way. http://www.foodrenegade.com/why-im-not-vegan/ Even though I am yet to decide my opinion on this topic, I was wondering what other vegans thought? Thanks, -Adam Hi,

I stumbled across an interesting article written by a former vegan. They studied the process of sustainable farming and soil development and learned that the by products of animals are required for a natural soil compost that avoids unsustainable chemicals and practices. This which is led the author to an attitude of consuming meat that is raised in a mindful, humane, and sustainable way. http://www.foodrenegade.com/why-im-not-vegan/

Even though I am yet to decide my opinion on this topic, I was wondering what other vegans thought?

Thanks,

-Adam

]]> By: Namrata http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-1063069 Namrata Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:12:08 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/?p=1037#comment-1063069 Hi Scott I've been vegan for about 8 months now. My reasons are ethical-having being raised a Hindu, I feel its unethical to kill or make another being suffer for our needs esp in this age when grocery stores have such myriad options available in nearly every city of the developed world. Reading "Eating Animals" by Jonathan FOer has further convinced me to stay vegan. Moreover, I do love being a vegan..:-) My only problem is the social inconvenience of it-how do you stay vegan while in a social gathering? What explanations do you give people about your dietary choices? Some pointers would be very helpful. Thanks Hi Scott
I’ve been vegan for about 8 months now. My reasons are ethical-having being raised a Hindu, I feel its unethical to kill or make another being suffer for our needs esp in this age when grocery stores have such myriad options available in nearly every city of the developed world. Reading “Eating Animals” by Jonathan FOer has further convinced me to stay vegan. Moreover, I do love being a vegan..:-)
My only problem is the social inconvenience of it-how do you stay vegan while in a social gathering? What explanations do you give people about your dietary choices? Some pointers would be very helpful.
Thanks

]]> By: Tomas http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-648801 Tomas Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:47:01 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/?p=1037#comment-648801 Scott, I wonder if you are aware of this critique of T.C.Campbell's work: http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/ Scott,

I wonder if you are aware of this critique of T.C.Campbell’s work:
http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/

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]]> By: Lily Walker http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-413916 Lily Walker Tue, 11 May 2010 21:23:57 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/?p=1037#comment-413916 I use Whey protein a lot before and after my bodybuilding routines. Whey helps a lot in building muscles.,,~ I use Whey protein a lot before and after my bodybuilding routines. Whey helps a lot in building muscles.,,~

]]> By: Scott K http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-359182 Scott K Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:49:43 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/?p=1037#comment-359182 Good article. My wife and I are actually discussing new ways to eat, and will probably try to get into eating vegetarian meals a couple of nights a week. Any suggestions on where you like to get vegetarian meal recipes? Good article. My wife and I are actually discussing new ways to eat, and will probably try to get into eating vegetarian meals a couple of nights a week. Any suggestions on where you like to get vegetarian meal recipes?

]]> By: Anthony http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-359128 Anthony Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:24:39 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/?p=1037#comment-359128 Thanks Scott for the answer, Thanks Scott for the answer,

]]> By: Scott Young http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-359013 Scott Young Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:37:07 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/?p=1037#comment-359013 Anthony, I can understand the use of protein powder in specific training situations, in the short term. But the fact is that your consuming on nutrient, stripped of all vitamins and minerals, in a highly refined state. No other macronutrient can be healthfully consumed this way: carbohydrates or fat, so I don't see why one can reasonably assume it is healthy to do so with protein powders. Highly refined carbs (white sugars, etc.) are not healthy. Highly refined fats (margerine, lard in large quantities) are not healthy. I'm not saying protein powders are specifically dangerous (like steroids or something with proven health repercussions) just that, on average, it's probably better to get your protein from natural sources which include vitamins, minerals, flavenoids and all those other wonderful chemicals that science is only beginning to discover have an impact on human nutrition. -Scott Anthony,

I can understand the use of protein powder in specific training situations, in the short term. But the fact is that your consuming on nutrient, stripped of all vitamins and minerals, in a highly refined state. No other macronutrient can be healthfully consumed this way: carbohydrates or fat, so I don’t see why one can reasonably assume it is healthy to do so with protein powders.

Highly refined carbs (white sugars, etc.) are not healthy.
Highly refined fats (margerine, lard in large quantities) are not healthy.

I’m not saying protein powders are specifically dangerous (like steroids or something with proven health repercussions) just that, on average, it’s probably better to get your protein from natural sources which include vitamins, minerals, flavenoids and all those other wonderful chemicals that science is only beginning to discover have an impact on human nutrition.

-Scott

]]> By: Anthony http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2009/09/28/why-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-359002 Anthony Sat, 03 Oct 2009 06:59:01 +0000 http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/?p=1037#comment-359002 "eating protein out of a powder is [not] very healthy" Why do you say this? “eating protein out of a powder is [not] very healthy”

Why do you say this?

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